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Old 12-03-2015 | 08:49 PM
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Birdstrikes
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Originally Posted by robthree
Strikes,

Stop telling people to shut up. You're not the internet police. Don't like Diesel's point of view? Don't read it. Better yet, refute it with facts.
SAI is not a career destination for anyone, apart from you 777 Captains. And we all know there is snowball's chance in hell of anyone othern than the next ten names down the seniority list seeing the left seat in the triple before the end of the decade.

You want a concrete example of disrespect? Where are you staying in LAX? I was on the hotel committee and I couldn't get a straight answer. The company wanted to do site inspections on extended stay properties that had less than a two star average on Yelp. Because they were cheaper than the Crowne Plaza. How about Leipzig? The Penta is ok, but the Marriott was much better. Seems the company burned a bridge there and we will never get back now. The 737 guys are stuck in the boonies in RNO. Do you love the CVG Hilton? Because at $63 a night you will be there forever. But since breakfast and points cost an extra $5 a night, you won't see them again.

The current crappy CBA most certainly does count as disrespect. Proposing it in the first place demonstrated their disrespect for the pilots. The fact that a majority of the membership had so little self-respect as to approve it does not diminish management's disdain for us.

If they did have any respect for us, management would come to us now and say, "The contract we have now is far below market. Yeah, we screwed up our bid for 737 flying with DHL, and can't afford much more, but we can offer you ABC and XYZ. Its not a lot but we'd like to do it as a show of good will. We certainly need the pilots to move our freight on time. And if people keep quitting at this rate we're gonna have to park airplanes again."

But they won't throw crumbs at us because we don't rate as high as pigeons do to them; we're barely worms.
Robthreee those are valid points. Does Diesel8 have anything other than generalizations? Also, thank you for volunteering for the Hotel Committee and trying to make things better while you were here. If more people actually participated in solving our issues we'd have fewer issues.

You did what I am advocating for. You did not like the current conditions you work under so you found a way to try to help improve things while here. At the same time you actually looked for a better flying job and found one. I respect that. *****ing and complaining on APC when it takes no more effort than typing is tiresome. That's my position with Diesel8......either work to make it better, leave, or $TFU. I believe I also gave someone else that advice and he did two out of the three.
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