Originally Posted by
Crazy Canuck
Well if the FAA actually cared about solving pilot fatigue they would have really done something meaningful about it.
I realize every airlines policy is different. But most don't pay for fatigue calls. As long as a fatigue call could potentially result in lost pay there will ALWAYS be pressure to fly fatigued.
Ok…I'll bite. Please explain how you are more fatigued since 117 came into play. 117 was a massive, imperfect compromise, but at least now I have 10 hours min rest with a required 8 hour uninterrupted sleep opportunity. Where I work, I rarely see less than 11-12 hours of scheduled rest. Before 117, my "rest" on the hotel van was reducible to 8 hours.
Lost pay for FT calls will never be an FAA concern.
Showing up for IOE after a redeye commute and posting on the innerwebz about it is just…dumb.