Thread: DL/ALPA Warning: Regional Commuting

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John Carr , 12-05-2015 10:16 AM
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Quote: A lot of these guys may have flown their 1000 hours for the year.
Possibly. But the way that 117 has affected regional airlines in the amount of flying done. Granted, NOT ALL, but some.

Meaning, "timing out" at the end of the year is more difficult nowadays.

It's more related to staffing issues, especially at RAH. It's been happening for a while with RAH/DelCon flying.

Quote: I agree with Zip - outsourcing of RJ flying will likely resolve itself (IF) we do not agree to allowing management to up-gauge current RJ flying. Their current objective is to get more large RJs in exchange for fewer small RJs, this only perpetuates the outsourcing of Delta pilot jobs. If management wants to up-guage that flying, a 717 or equivalent sounds just fine.
Agreed. The 50 seat RJ is the scourge. In efficient, a terrible airframe, etc etc etc. Yet the current scope wants to get rid of them, GOOD. But what's a BIGGER threat to the mainline narrow body job? The crappy 50 seater (today's turbo prop) going from hub to easy jesus crap-hole small town nowhere? Or the 70+ plus seat jet serving larger cities?

DAL is light year ahead with the 717 taking over much of what used to be done with RJ's. But that train needs to keep on rolling, MORE elimination of the 70+ seat scope.

Quote: They have been able to maintain quality and reliability at mainline because they have made the investments in the operation/people/infrastructure to do so.... It's hard to have reliable service when you squeeze your "partners" into money losing contracts and rebid flying/station/ground handling every 2 years while also creating your own alter-ego companies to bid against them.
True. And sadly, mainline wants the regional feed to be cheaper and cheaper. Even though they are getting regional feed at rock bottom prices that were leveraged during the bankruptcies and reaping record profits.

Yet it's funny, some of the regional managements are telling their pilots they can't afford to pay them more because mainline doesn't want to pay the regional feeder more money for their lift. Yet there's regional airlines upping pay for first year FO's. The things that make you scratch your head....

Quote: I agree that more mainline flying is beneficial to us all in the long run... The Delta, United, and Americans of the world can't just throw their hands up claiming ignorance of how this all happened. Pilot shortage is part of it, but the airlines themselves have played a huge part in this mess. The Wall St focus on quarterly results has led to a loss of long-term vision in my opinion.
Not just your opinion, pretty much fact, IMO

But sadly, as they say, "and the world keeps turning.........".

We're all waiting for this whole "Regional/RJ experiment" to fall completely on it's face. It's happening, albeit in small increments. But it's also being mitigated and slowed down some what.
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