Originally Posted by
GoMountaineers
Well then let's see the NC's proposal. Why not show it to the pilots so we can judge it's adequacy for ourselves? Let us see how it actually compares to the company's (which I think we all agree is a non-starter). But I have to question whether our union's own proposal was materially better than the company's since we all got the NC's update just a few months ago gushing about how close we were to a TA and about how plans were being made for pilot phone conferences and pre-roadshows. Did the company backpedal? If so, then show us; show us an offer the company made in the past that inspired such bubbly negotiating updates.
We can't all come on here and bash the company's offer unless we know what our union is demanding. We need to know just where our NC stands and what it means by the rather ambiguous phrase, "pathway to parity." Until our union provides this information, we have no way of knowing whether we're on the right track.
What scares me is that our NC have been at the table negotiating with that garbage in the first place. I would not be able to contain my laughter when they slid that across the table. The fact that they didn't means we are not asking for something that far removed from that proposal. We are 40-65% off pace right now just in rates for most of our pay scale. Does not include PS, retirement, disability, etc.
They are planning on doubling the fleet while almost tripling ASM in the next 5 years with larger seating capacity. That is a lot of people to be responsible for at a deep deep discount.
Our NC should be able to show exactly how much transition costs the company each month. An actual dollar amount. Subtract that figure from industry leading (or average depending on how you view it) A320 pay, retirement, etc and slide it across the table.