Originally Posted by
gonyon
For what it's worth the rationale given for focusing on the higher rates was that because of the large contingent of jr captains here it would be extraordinarily expensive to raise the junior to IA vs at least getting the top end rates up there.
From a costing perspective that is true.
Don't care
A few points I'd like to share:
As pilots, we compare ourselves to other pilots at the same seniority level at other carriers. If I make A320 industry average as a 4, 5, or 8 year captain here I personally would be OK. But if I'm nowhere close and won't be for 8 years, while others are, I think it's very divisive.
Yes from a cost perspective it would cost more to get everyone up to parity with industry average instead of the most senior. So what? That just means we are seriously underpaid! Other companies have had and continue to have short upgrade times. This company is the most profitable in the U.S., so now would be the time to get a good contract.
This isn't my first rodeo. I have been at three other 121 carriers and have been furloughed in two massive layoffs. You need to get the income now, not years down the road when you may never get it. Don't be fooled into thinking that the big payday will come in a few years so you can be underpaid now. I wouldn't count on the same rate of upgrades either. At both companies where I was laid off, things looked great at some point.
Since FO pay is based on a percentage of Captain pay (usually around 2/3), not only do the Jr Captains get a bad deal, so do all of the FOs, since their pay scale stops at 10 years.
Many of us won't be at the top pay scale for long or at all, since we were older when we got here. They really lose out with the distorted pay scales.
I've said this before, I can't find a single other carrier with as skewed a pay scale as ours. This needs to be fixed, not continued. The legacies and everyone else have it right. To skew the pay scale for a select few is wrong.
Of course I want the senior pilots to get a good raise. We need a pay scale that is good for all of us, from Junior to Senior. I want to fly with pilots who are unified and happy to have a career here, not some waiting years to maybe get industry average pay.