Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy

Okay. Not to be all doom and gloom, but my crystal ball is not looking good on this offer unless there are significant positives coming out of it. With the announcement of Endeavor's agreement of adding the 53 200s to flying service and a hiring outlook of 600 pilots next year, we just can't compete with those numbers as far as growth. Add to that the $20K per year retention bonus and preferential hiring with Delta, we have no chance of getting those new hires unless they really value one of our bases. And it's not just Endeavor. We can't compete with SKYW on growth. We can't compete with Republic on pay and contract. We can't compete with Envoy on their flow agreement. We can't even compete with PSA, Mesa, and Commutair on upgrades and growth. I'm concerned management has just waited too long to make things happen and they're not willing to spend to get themselves out of the hole. In effect, this leaves the pilot group to carry the burden of accepting an industry low agreement. Even if we do accept the low ball offer, what does the company gain out of this? There's no associated flying or aircraft to go along with the extension passing. A new hire would have to come here on faith alone that management actually has flying lined up. Why come here on faith when you have actual quality contracts, pay, planes, flow and growth elsewhere? I just don't get it and am not feeling too upbeat about the future. But we shall see tomorrow I guess...