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Old 12-15-2015 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84
I'm curious as to why you arbitrarily pick the 824 as the point in time when AAG reneges on their flow agreement with envoy, specifically the Protected Pilot and the contractual flow after that? The only reason I can see you saying that is that you see the 824 agreement working as advertised, so have to pick on the agreements that are next in line in order to look like you have some legitimacy.

What you also fail to mention is that the flow agreements with PDT and envoy are essentially the same once you hit a certain threshold. That threshold being anybody hired here post DOS. Until then, envoy's flow is far and away better (in terms of amount being sent to AA vs. total size of the pilot group) then any other WO. Again, yes for those hired post DOS, the envoy and PDT flow provisions are relatively balanced out. Hence why the flow projection is the same general time period at both PDT and envoy. But you seem to be under the constant belief that AAG is going to renege on the provisions of the flow post-824, in order to "balance it out" with the other two WO's, yet provide no legitimate evidence or argument to back that prediction up.


Edit; Unless you've been out of the loop, envoy is "right sized" or at least very close to it. This does not include any of the anticipated (not yet announced) return of the TSA birds which would correlate to growth. So by your prediction, shouldn't the other two WO's be getting a nice little christmas gift from Dougie in the form of a better flow? Or do they have to wait for the end of the 824 to get a better flow?
Because the 824 are the highest earners and also it was a judge's arbitration. To assume Envoy wouldn't hold back a <12 guy is naive. His cost would be in check industry wide for regional flying.
Do you really think envoy will never need it's captains to run the operation. Even despite the shrinking, the slack will catch up and Envoy will need every pilot they have and will make every attempt to bottle neck the flow.
If you claim that the company is right sized then Envoy will have to hire 1:1 for flow plus the flying it's bringing back, which won't be easy in this environment. PSA pulled it off last year due to laterals that I doubt Envoy will be able to attract.
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