Originally Posted by
Rainbows
We ain't saying a new contract with increased pay rates and retirement while holding on to our QOL rules isn't what we want. I'm saying their going about it the wrong way. And how do you mean we're dragging down the rest of the industry? How about the other carriers who don't have four days off between pairings, or transition conflict, or line bidding or sweet vacation rules, or nice inexpensive insurance? Huh? Are they dragging down the industry? How about those pilot groups who have given up scope, allowed code sharing, a and b plans, etc, they dragging down the industry? Please, you gotta be a special kind of stupid if you think the legacies are sitting looking across the negotiating table quoting Spirit's rates to its pilots.
No but you were brought in to our peer set at JetBlue on our last "contract" and directly brought down our rates because of that. That is a fact. But that is fine as long as you can recognize that that is a problem for everyone. The original poster, your colleague, brought up some good points about things that needed to be fixed. He was met by what I assume are fellow Spirit pilots with comments of, "why don't you quit". That's bogus.
Also your 4 days off between pairings is a red herring in my opinion. I'm sick of hearing about it because it leaves out anyone that doesn't want to fly 3-4-5 and I think you have 6 day trips.