Originally Posted by RalphWiggum

something else some need to wake up to is the reality this was early opener talks for focused negotiations. Since this is going down the full road of Section 6 and will likely take time to produce, the NC needs new data from the pilot group to direct their talks. It does us no good to settle for the crap deal even close what the term sheet offered now. The only benefit to "focused negotiations" was a deal that was going to put $$ in our pockets without delay.

With this clearly behind us, we need to get a contract that builds on what they agreed upon in the term sheet. Yes rates need to come up and transition needs to stay, regardless of how they monetize it. Spirit management will not come close to paying the actual yearly cost of transition to us.

We need to get rid of trip averaging and get a higher min day to offset these awful 4 day trips they produce. How about short term disability so you don't need sick time donations when something in your life goes wrong? No where in that term sheet was it even a possibility we would see these improvements.

Ackerman you have failed us. Your experiment of working with the company played you for fool you are. We have nothing to show from your antics this spring. Only time will tell if the NC committee can get the job done or if we need new blood in there too.