If you search the post history of those that are so skeptical about the 6 years flow you will find that nearly all of them are either (1) former envoy pilots that flinched during the company's hard pressure negotiation tactics and jumped ship, or are (2) PSA, RAH, TSA etc pilots or are (3) a bitter old former envoy pilot with a deep sociopathic disorder. You'll even notice that eaglefly has moved his focus of criticism away from the 6 year flow and now talks almost exclusively about the 2.5 year upgrade. He knows the 6 year flow numbers work and has been proven wrong on the subject several times. He now focuses his envoy attacks on a subject he has more likelihood to successfully argue. Except he overlooks the fact that no one, not the envoy "salesmen" or even ALPA endorses the 2.5 upgrade as plausible. The only person actually selling it, is Wilson. eaglefly just hopes that guys will focus on that one small part of the flow "promise" to discredit the entire flow program.

I make no bones about the fact that I "sell" envoy. Contrary to eaglefly's claim, I do not work in management or recruitment. I really do believe that Parker will make the flow work as advertised and that as the regional pilot staffing shortage deepens causing collapse and consolidation in the industry, envoy and the other wholly owned airlines will far the best. ( I have posted several times the basis for these convictions). I could be wrong, only time will tell. I am part of the 824. I will flow to AA soon whether they hire or not, whether envoy fails or not. It will not affect me. I sell envoy because I really believe in what I say. With a little post/profile search one can usually decipher between someone that has a legitimate criticism or gripe about envoy and those with an agenda.