2.5 certainly could happen. When I interviewed in 1999 upgrade time was 18 months. By the time I hit the line, it was at 24 months. By the time 9/11 happened, it was longer still.

Those that want to believe 2.5 is going to happen are welcome to, but I question the motives of those who sell it so hard. Quite frankly I think their hard sell job is self serving. The rabid attacks on anyone who doesn't agree with the message are telling.

Envoy isn't the worst Regional out there, and if someone wants to hire on here I'll help and support them however I can. I just think that they need to do their research and perhaps eliminate the two most positive and two most negative posters and consider "the middle" as reality.