Originally Posted by gettinbumped

Looking at this another way.... if what you say is true, and the company is indeed using this as a ruse to pull one over on the pilot group again, then I would expect a full section 6 negotiation to be even MORE difficult and problematic. This goes against the theory being floated that we haven't effectively utilized our leverage in this negotiation and we will get much more, and quickly, in a full section 6. If they ARE playing the extreme hardball you suggest and punching every penny, we are looking at a LONG time before we get this type of pay raise again. And every day that goes by, it has to get bigger to make turning this down worth it from a mathematical perspective.