Albie, The point is that we pay good money to have these things researched in great detail before it is presented to us. I am saying now that our MEC is out of touch and are not the smartest deal makers on the planet. Maybe they need to scan the forums on the net and see what some of the brighter pilots have questions about and address them in our next proposal if this is turned down. If they don't, its time to get rid of them and the staff we are paying for.