Originally Posted by
Bucketofpropwas
Any chance of sharing your reasons for leaving Mesa, or your background? PM if you'd like, I'm very interested in knowing what I'm jumping into. Having a training contract s...ks. frontier I think still has one and they don't pay for hotels in training.
I'm ready for the low pay and sitting on sh...t ready reserve. Unfortunately, most regionals and even some majors QOl is crap, as they have given up Qol for $$$. I think the 117 rules are better understood now than a year ago, hopefully scheduling doesn't abuse reservists too bad. I have my reasons for Mesa, compared to other regionals they offer me what I need. I have the 121 1000 TPIC large turbine 737 type. I have not heard from anybody other than long long range class with a few companies. its always best to take first training offer than wait months for a training date, while I go noncurrent. I plan to stay at Mesa until I upgrade, then I'll see what happens. if you need the money upfront and can wait for a slow upgrade and a flow, than Endeavor or Envoy maybe best. I can't wait for a flow, nor do I trust them, I'm too old.
I think you need to redo your homework, you have it wrong.
The upgrade time will be faster at Envoy then it will be at Mesa. You have about 550 FO's that have to upgrade at Mesa before you will. We only have about 70-80 more Captain seats coming so you will be betting on attrition at Mesa for the rest to get out of your way. No Flow means no movement. Probably looking like a 5 year plus upgrade now at Mesa if hired today. If not longer. Can you endure low pay for that long as an FO?
Envoy has movement with the flow of half the American class each month. Easy choice. I am not sure why you think they would be a longer upgrade. Outdated info?
Why do you think FO's are leaving Mesa for other regionals? It's a sign not to come here. They are not just leaving for the greater FO pay, it is because the upgrade time is probably going to be faster elsewhere. Our FO's get it. You need PIC. Unless Mesa gets a massive order of jets, or a ton of attrition in the Captain ranks, good luck enjoying the lowest FO pay in the industry for a long time.
Besides you say you don't mind the low pay and sitting ready reserve, yeah, heard that before.... You end up being the one complaining in the crew room everyday. No one is willing to sacrifice your life for low pay and ready reserve. If you are, you are a fool. If you come here, get ready for a year or more of Ready Reserve every day!