Man, I want some of what you are smoking!! Are you an Envoy recruiter posting on the Mesa thread? Currently, Envoy reserve time is 2 years, and upgrade is around 6 or 7 years. Coming down, sure, but... If you think an Envoy upgrade is fast... Words escape me.
Most junior CA at Mesa is August 2014. At Envoy, it's July 2007.
Originally Posted by
wt932051
I think you need to redo your homework, you have it wrong.
The upgrade time will be faster at Envoy then it will be at Mesa. You have about 550 FO's that have to upgrade at Mesa before you will. We only have about 70-80 more Captain seats coming so you will be betting on attrition at Mesa for the rest to get out of your way. No Flow means no movement. Probably looking like a 5 year plus upgrade now at Mesa if hired today. If not longer. Can you endure low pay for that long as an FO?
Envoy has movement with the flow of half the American class each month. Easy choice. I am not sure why you think they would be a longer upgrade. Outdated info?
Why do you think FO's are leaving Mesa for other regionals? It's a sign not to come here. They are not just leaving for the greater FO pay, it is because the upgrade time is probably going to be faster elsewhere. Our FO's get it. You need PIC. Unless Mesa gets a massive order of jets, or a ton of attrition in the Captain ranks, good luck enjoying the lowest FO pay in the industry for a long time.
Besides you say you don't mind the low pay and sitting ready reserve, yeah, heard that before.... You end up being the one complaining in the crew room everyday. No one is willing to sacrifice your life for low pay and ready reserve. If you are, you are a fool. If you come here, get ready for a year or more of Ready Reserve every day!