Originally Posted by
AllenAllert
You must be one of the ones not paying attention when 2012 passed. JH beat the team of JP/Smisek to stop the carnage at the pilot seniority. So, don't try to turn it into a LCAL vs LUAL contest. The people at the bottom of the seniority list suffer the most by a poor contract. The starting point of LUAL contract, regardless of the lack of a money get, was a good deal for the logical thinking pilots. And, that is why it was voted in by both LCAL and LUAL majority.
I kinda feel sorry for guys that haven't taken the time to understand the real issues and follow the shills on APC. As they say, "you can't fix stupid". I have a feeling the locgical thinking United pilots will come to the forefront and vote "NO" to a piecemeal approach of negotiating our contracts.
Since you have mentioned logic; .... continue with current pay rate and the same UPA into long negotiations, most likely for next 24 months and potentially not gaining anything more;
OR
Vote YES, get some $$$ and DAL snap up, and other pay benefit for extending duty, pay and vacation for double furlough, potentially creating more vacancies to cover flying created by those pilots with increased vacation, and still have the same highly regarded "QOL" work rules from 2012 UPA?
Simple:
NO vote...... 2012 UPA no change for at least 12 months (more like 24 months)
Yes vote...... 2012 UPA + more $$$, + potential more $$$ w/ DAL Sup, + vacation; more $$$ for double furloughs, + more $$$ for extensions.
NO (UPA2012 0$ )
...
< YES (UPA2012 +$+$+$+vacations)
