Scott:

We've both been at UAL for some time and seen our share of the inner workings of the MEC and its chair, so please spare us the Heppner's a bad guy routine. Again all it is more hyperbole and discussion ender.

You did write this, which might need to be addressed: "How about a full Section 6 in the best negotiating environment ever? No. Of course not."

The answer is Full section 6 is not nor ever has been on the table with this whole TA process.

The MEC had the opportunity to just say NO to UAL and yet it chose to engage in the limited scope negotiations which has led to this TA. Don't forget they also had the opportunity to can this TA and yet the majority of the MEC chose to accept and pass it on for a general vote of us pilots.

Whether or not you like Heppner or any of the YES voters on the MEC, the fact is the ALPA method is working, it just seems you don't like the results. In spite of all the rhetoric I can't think of a time when our Union hasn't functioned better.

As they say (too often) it is what it is,