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Old 01-02-2016 | 11:17 AM
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Regularguy
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"My only concern was the CAL reference - we need to leave this particular division behind - we are now all one company and one union."

AGREED!



Allen...

OK YES Voter Summary from what I have read here:

1. A bird in the hand...

2. Regular negotiations historically take upwards of two to three years from the exchange of opening letters. Considering there will be no pay raises (3% yes right now) or changes in QOL issues over the next 2 - 3 years the cost of not taking the money now will never be realized in any improvements accomplished in the final contract TA.

3. Should the current TA be voted in another two years will be added onto the above (2) except those years will be paid at higher rates.

4. The future chances of getting major changes in the contract become more risky as the time increases. This applies to both voting NO and starting regular negotiations on time as well as voting YES and delaying the contract.

5. A large portion of the pilot population is retiring in the next three years and will not see any improvement in the contract, pay or QOL.

Allen...

Basically I'm torn between waiting, hoping a NO vote will help the future pilots and taking the additional funds now with a YES vote.

I believe in reality it would be hard pressed to discount into the present (come up with the present value) any future improvements in pay and QOL. If such a number could be determined I also believe it would be difficult to beat the present value of the TA pay raises.

Personally I've never been emotionally attached to this TA as some seem to be and there's no boogey man sitting in the middle of this which might divide us as a pilot group. Sadly there are those (I mention at least two names) who want to divide us over this and almost every subject we face.

What do I think we lose if we vote NO? Cash.

What do I think we lose if we vote YES? Potential contractural changes over the next 2-5 years. But notice I wrote "potential."

My bird hasn't decided yet.

And yes I also believe the ALPA processes is working well in this TA.
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