Originally Posted by
Andy
This sudden concern that the CS-100 rate is somehow B scale (it's not B scale; that argument requires quite a bit of linguistic gymnastics to mislabel it B scale) is just more politics in an effort to torpedo the TA. A B Scale is where employees for the same company are working under different pay rates for the same seat/equipment/longevity. If one were to adopt this flawed definition of B scale, then the 737-700, A319, and CS300 are B scale because they pay less than the 737-500 when adjusted for whatever narrow measure you'd like to use.
I just can't believe that the NO crowd is using this as an excuse to vote no. We finally have a chance to stop mainline retreat and now you guys want to fumble the ball. Do what Joe Pisarcik
should have done and take a knee on the CS100 pay rate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlmUw2zcc8Q
The 500 was on property only a 2-3 years ago, several other airplanes on there are not and won't be here either yet we compare ourselves to them all the time (Dal 717 rates for instance). Make the capt rates, highest FO rate + some, I'll loose some of my heart burn over it.
UAL can buy these airplanes whenever they like, they don't need this TA to do it. Voting yes because you think the content of the TA is better than what we could do in Sec 6, not because of speculation and hope. Hope isn't a strategy, like hoping DAL ratifies before 1/2018.
Originally Posted by
ron kent
For the no voters that haven't figured it out yet, the extension is the leverage. The company has no intention of signing a new deal with pilots for at least 3 years. They are paying for peace and breathing room from the pilots while they deal with all the other issues they have facing them, IT, FA/Mechanic contracts, etc. I tried to point this out a few weeks ago on the other forum but that is crazy talk over there.
We turn this deal down and the leverage is gone. But we will be able to be ****ed off for the next three years, put our hats on and march around and inflate some giant rats.
So with all that leverage, we got 13%... That's what you're saying right?