Originally Posted by
flapshalfspeed
Go to Envoy. Prior121 and I have historically been two of the biggest Mesa cheerleaders on here for the last three years, and we're both telling you to go to Envoy over Mesa now. That should speak volumes to you.
Someone has to end up stuck at the bottom of our list when we're done with the growth and the economy inevitably cycles back downward. By my estimation, anyone hired between now and the end of the EJet deliveries this summer/early Fall is at risk of being in one of those "last classes."
Mesa is a great place to work--for those of us who benefitted from the express train to lineholder/hours/upgrade. I can't in good conscience tell you to come here now, though, because I personally don't think you're going to hold a line/upgrade nearly as fast as people currently on property did. IMHO there's much less risk and much bigger rewards on offer at Envoy--just my two cents...feel free to disagree!
A lot of people on here were spreading doom and gloom. Then we got 18 more planes. I know you all want fo's to stop showing up for a better contract, but its just assuming until the upgrades actually stop. Judging by the past two years we have had growth and it hasn't stopped. If I wanted to really be based in DFW ... I wouldn't go to a regional that has major shrinkage in DFW and daddy AA outsourcing a lot of their flying.
The facts are that eagle is shrinking. Yea they have the flow, but if you have ever worked there you will know its a bunch of bull sh#$. From the outside it sounds amazing like leprechauns and pots of gold. AA tried to break their promise and kill the flows back when eagle was beagle. Luckily the 824 guys/gals won it back by arbitration. If history repeats itself AA will probably try to kill off the flow to the rest of the group "especially if they are short on pilots." They haven't even really hit the 824 and you expect huge amounts of movement? This industry is all about timing and luck. Your hedging your bets that eagle is finally turning it around and that management has decided to work with the pilots? God forbid the economy tanks.....>>The Chinese economy is tanking at the moment... The first planes to go will be the 50 seaters. Both places have their +/- but they can just as easily be burned at eagle.
We need a new contract so don't come to mesa!