Originally Posted by
RyanP
More like, the facts are: 403 pilots at Envoy have just recently flowed in the last couple years, over 100 more went before that group..
300+ planned to flow to AA in 2016 from Envoy. This January, 30 pilots just got a class.. Supposed to continue all year at 30/month flow except for 2 months in the summer to possibly take the last of the unknown number of AA recall deferrals. It was supposed to move up from 20/mo to 30/month and it did, contrary to internet belief.
How is that bull sh#$? Good luck getting to a big 3 "Legacy" off the street from another regional with no flow these days.. not many civilians even getting interviews out of the thousands trying with 5,000 PIC and 8,000+ hours, some at UAL, but very bad odds getting into AA and DAL off the street.. AA becoming virtually impossible with the flow agreements, and military taking the rest of the available slots. So now you are down to 2, one of which (DAL) is also HIGHLY military biased, has rediculous screening requirements and extremely picky about who they want and also have hiring slots accounted for via Endeavor pilots.. so better hope you perfectly fit that perfect DAL uptight "tier 1" profile.. or you will be down to just fighting for the remaining UAL slots like the rest of the thousands and thousands of regional pilots AND EVERY PILOT AT JETBLUE, SPIRIT,FRONTIER,VIRGIN, ATLAS, SUN COUNTRY, SOUTHWEST, AND ALLEGIANT,
Unless you don't want a big 3 Legacy job, then do whatever..
Added the bold part to your great post for enhanced accuracy. As mentioned a million times before: Good luck going to Delta or United straight from a non-wholly owned Regional. Scratch AA off completely as flow accounts for the vast majority of spots.
Going to any non-wholly owned Regional these days will get you all the way to one of the LCCs or Atlas and that is after putting in an average of 5 to 7 years at your Regional of choice.