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Old 01-07-2016 | 06:37 PM
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RyanP
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Added the bold part to your great post for enhanced accuracy. As mentioned a million times before: Good luck going to Delta or United straight from a non-wholly owned Regional. Scratch AA off completely as flow accounts for the vast majority of spots.

Going to any non-wholly owned Regional these days will get you all the way to one of the LCCs or Atlas and that is after putting in an average of 5 to 7 years at your Regional of choice.
I wouldn't say every LCC pilot, many I know at the LCCs are content and not going anywhere.. but yeah, thats a good point.. a lot of them, especially LCC FO's are definitely still competing for those remaining DAL/UAL slots as well.

I know countless people that have gone from regional to LCC, Cargo, and overseas.. but literally only personally know a handful of non military background pilots (out of an exceptionally qualified, highly experienced group of regional pilots) that have gone to UAL, even less of them to DAL. It is a lot harder than new hires coming into this industry think. (Even with checking all the boxes, perfect training records, TPIC, many thousands of hours, job fairs, check airman time, networking, advanced degrees, hundreds of hours volunteering. Many, many people I know, including myself, never even get the interview call from those 2).

This is why I am fortunate to have the AA flow through coming up very soon being at Envoy, just show up to class when assigned and hopefully be done with the stress of this job hunting/seniority recycling crap for the next 30 years. No need to waste another 3-5 years at an LCC being junior all over again. No more wasted time and money on job fairs, no more competition and jumping through all the hoops to try and to get lucky and convince some HR rep to "maybe" give me an AA/DAL/UAL interview one day. It has been a long road of crap and regional hell to get to this point but the flow is finally working.
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