Thread: Envoy or Mesa?
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Old 01-07-2016 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanP
I wouldn't say every LCC pilot, many I know at the LCCs are content and not going anywhere.. but yeah, thats a good point.. a lot of them, especially LCC FO's are definitely still competing for those remaining DAL/UAL slots as well.

I know countless people that have gone from regional to LCC, Cargo, and overseas.. but literally only personally know a handful of non military background pilots (out of an exceptionally qualified, highly experienced group of regional pilots) that have gone to UAL, even less of them to DAL. It is a lot harder than new hires coming into this industry think. (Even with checking all the boxes, perfect training records, TPIC, many thousands of hours, job fairs, check airman time, networking, advanced degrees, hundreds of hours volunteering. Many, many people I know, including myself, never even get the interview call from those 2).

This is why I am fortunate to have the AA flow through coming up very soon being at Envoy, just show up to class when assigned and hopefully be done with the stress of this job hunting/seniority recycling crap for the next 30 years. No more wasted time and money on job fairs, no more competition and jumping through all the hoops to try and to get lucky and convince some HR rep to "maybe" give me an AA/DAL/UAL interview one day. It has been a long road of crap and regional hell to get to this point but the flow is finally working.
This. The flow is not the best thing in the world but there are 10+ year captains at every regional waiting for a call from AA/DAL/UAL. At the WOs, at least you just wait your turn and go to class. In the meantime you can still apply to all 3. People are still getting hired outside of the flow from envoy to AA. I myself live at an American base and don't want to move. Being at envoy gives me the opportunity to not have to commute the rest of my life. With the limited amount of AA street hires, getting on without the flow will continue to be very challenging.
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