Originally Posted by Shiner

It's not even close to the same pay. Envoy 1st year is $25/hr with a $5,000 bonus. Mesa is $22/hr and no bonus.

Envoy FOs enjoy $3027.84 more per year than Mesa FOs ($252 per month). Envoy's $5,000 bonus comes with a 2-year contract. Mesa has a 1-year training contract (cut in half with 45 day advance notice) with $3,500 "bonus" ($250 per week extra in training, plus a $1,000 IOE bonus, plus $500 for iPad).

Envoy will be providing iPads beginning sometime this quarter. Mesa requires you to buy your own.

Mesa gives $500 towards iPad, which is yours to keep, unlike Envoy's.

Envoy 2nd year pays $34/hr. Mesa 2nd year $29/hr.

Envoy per diem is $1.85/hr. Mesa per diem is $1.47/hr.

I don't have the exact numbers on health insurance, but suffice to say Envoy's plans are decent, and Mesa's are so expensive, they're not affordable for someone trying to cover their family.

Envoy also the intangible benefits of better flight benefits and jumpseat priority on AA. And the possibility to flow to AA after a while.

And Mesa has flight benefits on AA as well as UA.

Reserve at Envoy might be longer, but with proffering for open time, you still get to pick trips or try and sit at home. It works out for commuters and home based guys pretty well actually.

Yes, it "works out", if flight time is not your thing.

I'm not trying to knock Mesa here, just pointing out that you guys are way behind an average contract.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk