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Old 01-09-2016 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Thanks for the link, that worked.


Listening to the FRMS bit, I don't see that ALPA is retaining it's ability to withdraw participation as we did with the MOU last spring. Should this TA pass, are we "in" on FRMS no matter what?

For example, if the company were to unilaterally decide that it would no longer publish first officer lines and the Captain was responsible for choosing the flying co-pilot. Something like this could increase fatigue and risk and produce a less safe operation.

There are many hypothetical examples, but my concern is that if we say yes to the FMRS template, we'll be along for the ride, no matter what.

Can ALPA withdraw participation from the FMRS under this TA?
TA language

1. Prior to submitting an FRMS application to the FAA for approval, the Company will obtain ALPA’s consent. Such consent will not be unreasonably withheld and, if withheld, will be based solely on the merits of the FRMS application. Such consent shall not be withheld for a mandatory second break seat; this clause shall not diminish the parties’ rights under Section 5-J-10 Crew Rest Oversight Committee. ALPA’s reason(s) for withholding consent shall be provided to the Company in writing. However, ALPA may withhold its consent for any reason if the FRMS either seeks to raise any part of FAR 117 Table B above fourteen (14) hours or would require a change to the Agreement to be implemented.
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