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Old 01-11-2016 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by b52dthdlr

I respect and honor your opinions and your position and appreciate your candor. I agree we are not on opposite sides in battle, we merely disagree on an issue. It is of utmost importance that we carry on with debates like this. I for one am never opposed to changing my stance if someone can present me with facts and strategies developed from said facts that contribute to the betterment for our profession.

I will in fact support a yes vote if this is in fact what the majority wants. I'm not and never have been an ignorant chest thumper. I have strong beliefs but like you will never break ranks because things didn't go my way. Nothing is ever gained by fragmentation unless of course we are talking about things that kill.

Reserve improvements actually benefit a much larger percentage of the pilots than a mere %20. The number you speak of is the approximate percentage of total pilots dedicated to filling reserve positions. You'd have to take into account the many people who 1. Travel through reserve on an initial bid willing to take a calculated risk that they will eventually be a line holder. 2. People who would bid equipment that would make them more money but don't because they know how bad reserve can be.

Reserve was simply NOT addressed by ALPA in these negotiations and this was confirmed in a recent address made by Jay Heppner to Council 34 when a member asked this very question. His response was the company presented us with a concessionary reserve system and Jay just told them to take it off the table. Why he chose to disregard MEC direction on this very issue is appalling at best and a disservice to the entire pilot group.

I agree this TA is not a defeat but a short fall. We are just kicking the can down the road a little further when the time to strike (not job action) is now why the environment is more favorable to us than it has been in many years.
I appreciate and respect your attitude, and share your philosophy that if the memebership votes this down (I'm a yes vote), I will respect that this is the will of the pilot group and strongly support the Section 6 process.

The one thing I disagree with is your perspective of how we ended up with no reserve rule changes, but our disagreement is one of semantics. What I took from what Jay said was that they submitted improvements to reserve, and the company submitted concessions. They quickly realized that this would be a major sticking point in the negotiation so elected to remove it with no change. To me that's not ignoring MEC direction. They DID negotiate on reserve, it's just that those negotiations didn't yield any changes: but it should be noted that the no change was also no concessions.
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