Originally Posted by
brownwhalerider
Since you were an intern at one time for company X, did you have a particular pilot group in mind? There is always more to the story, and maybe once you have been around the block once or twice you will see. That being said most new hires technically aren't covered while on probation so year one is what the company thinks your worth, and year 2-...... is what the union can negotiate.
WTF is up with folks on this board
always assuming I'm bagging on UPS, the IPA or your pilot group?
This thread is about Frontier, is it not?
Yes I was a co-op at UPS in 2005, during contract negotiations but before the TA, and yes I
very much would like to work for UPS in the future. I am fully aware of what UPS management's position was regarding newhire pilots and their compensation during negotiations. I also know that folks left UPS while still in training for SWA and FDX, in no small part due to their higher probationary compensation.
Knowing that, it still would be nice to see negotiating capital spent to ensure a reasonable wage for probationary pilots and nowhere is that more evident than at the regional level where I currently am. FedEx pays a reasonable wage to first-year pilots, as does Southwest and Delta (under a concessionary agreement, no less). Those rates weren't benevolently gifted to them by management, they were fought for and paid for with negotiating capital by the whole pilot group.
Considering the number of folks on APC and FI that complain about the bottom-dollar probationary rates at United, Northwest, US Airways, Continental and even at UPS...I would have thought the topic of higher probationary compensation would have near-universal agreement among professional pilots.