No I have not. You are showing your age again. So easy to get confused. I promise to come visit you in the nursing home. If for no other reason than to watch your roommate's facial expressions as you rant on the evils of envoy and flow. A career path you choose, but is wrong for everyone else. Least you forget, in ALL your years at Eagle, you were never able to secure gainful employment elsewhere. Were it not for the flow, you would be a Bitter Old Envoy Captain instead of a Bitter Old AA FO.