I don't think the financials are that strong, and I get the feeling those FFD contracts aren't exactly "lucrative." Why we couldn't get them for the same rates SkyWest does is beyond me. And if this full new hire class isn't a fluke, we just lost a good chunk of leverage for the TA (management's ability to staff).

Nobody here is going to vote in a bad TA. The older guys have taken enough abuse over the years and the younger guys know their worth. But if management is still filling classes what's the incentive for them to come back to the table and negotiate with any degree of seriousness? That leaves us at an impasse until they can't fill classes or we get to mediation.