Originally Posted by
eaglefly
The difference between our positions is that mine involve Facts
Fact : The latest update indicated that LESS total pilots are NOW projected to flow from the previously assumed consistent 30/month. How can they "true up" if the total number is lower which implies that to do that, they'd have to INCREASE the rate in the future ?
You're off to a good start. This is the same issue I stated, but if you want to lay claim to a fact I've already stated be my guest.
Sorry, spinmeister, but that's too much fuzzy math.
Mine or yours?
Additionally, EL is as good a litmus of the vibe of Envoy pilots as anything and it appears many of them who previously may have sipped the Kool-Aid are beginning to get indigestion.
False. EL is predominantly negative. Posted polls have failed to accurately predict vote results in contractual issues. That's a fact. Rumors are 12 Ga bird shot, if you fire enough rounds you're bound to get a hit once in a while. I'm not good enough to pick the winning argument out of all that spray, I don't have the ego to be always right.
Spin : Rationalizing an assumed future reality that is based on altering the facts and then including irrelevant information as a distractor, such as irrelevant individuals and the validity of the stated source of that which provided the facts. I hope sales isn't your full-time day job, because you suck at it.
Show me what was altered. Expect turnabout, you reap what you sow.
Facts are facts and the flow will not maintain 30/month for 2016 as per the company source. In fact, if the Letter T pilots come back in any reasonable numbers beyond the least expected scenario, it could stop altogether.
That's obvious, but as usual you engage in hyperbole. "Stop altogether". Of course it will stop. You act like you're the first to discover that letter T pilots will be returning.
Let's lay out what has been known here for many months:
The number of pilots this year has shifted repeatedly. We expect 300-ish. That is all.
The un-defers are coming back late spring. This has been on the radar for more than a year. The flow will be near or at zero
while the un-defers are returning, then the flow will resume, not stop "altogether". This, also, has been known for a long time.
Of course you selectively choose to assume (assumptions are not facts) that the maximum will return to fuel your constant doomsday predictions. Well, them's the breaks if that happens, but it isn't the likely scenario.
Even after all that, they still need to true up.
It's nice you keep reiterating things that have already been discussed, but I think we're good. Let us know when you come up with something original.