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Old 02-02-2016, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LUV FLYING View Post
feltf4,

You may find the attachment interesting which is a contract comparison by the Delta MEC from 2001.

I don't have data prior to deregulation in 1978...though we've all heard the cadillac per month analogy. Post deregulation, Delta Contract 2001 (June 2001) set the high water mark. Of note, senior Captain B777 pay was $319.61 for 2004. The BLS.gov inflation calculator suggests a 2015 pay rate of $401.02 or about 25.5% increase. Also consider that Delta provided a 60% FAE defined benefit pre ch 11 reorg. Nothing has come close to the inflation adjusted value yet of contract 2001...though, there's noteworthy progress.

-By Jan 2019, American's Jan 2015 contract sets group IV Captain pay at $320.29/hr and year 1 FO pay at $84.45/hr. Group II year 2 FO is $126.54.

-By Nov 2020, FedEx's Nov 2015 contract has year 15 widebody Captain pay at $335.56 by Nov 2020 and year 1 FO pay at $81.13 for NB FO and $84.10 for WB FO. Year 2 FO pay is $156.39 NB and $190.82 WB. Again, that is year 2 FOs!

-By Jan 2018, United's Jan 2016 UPA extension LOA has widebody Captain pay at $320.86 and year 1 FO pay at $83.26. Year 2 SNB FO pay is $96.28, junior Captain pay on SNB (CS100, E190/E195) are $178.61 year 1. I believe junior Captain pay this is a new industry high.

Luv flying
Thanks. This is all eye opening..

So although $305 for a wide body at United is impressive it's really not a new thing given 2004 rates that have been listed...

Interesting. I was still in high school learning to fly in 2004, I knew pilots made "mega" bucks, but now that I'm in the big leagues it's interesting to see where we are now and where it actually was before. (Only talking pay rates nothing more)
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