Originally Posted by eaglefly

if someone new came in who hasn't gotten his snout into the $$$ trough so deep, then we'd simply start the process over with that unconsummated requirement, which certainly wouldn't help us. Personally, i don't think it matters at this point as we have few things left to take and very little we have leverage to get. In the end, we'll have to take what's offered hat-in-hand (which will cause extreme heartburn) or live with what we have. The cyclical realities may result in an industry downturn just as the big 3 pilots' go into the next round at the end of the decade giving management all the excuse it needs to short-change us again and that's why they are maximizing gains for themselves now.

Considering the reality of this "new" pilot group, a large segment of which is destined for continued intractable warfare (did you read the thread on c & r from the philly vp ? ) and our leverage, i see little hope but riding it out on the good ship mediocrity.