Ok seriously?!?!?!?! How weak are we if we say that? Delta has never in their history voted down a ta until now. And Richard Anderson although he was awesome is old! he wasn't sticking around forever. We just started formal negotiations, did you think management was just going to roll over and say here you go? No they are going to play their game as we play ours. It's how most negotiations go. There will be threats, there will be a 99 percent strike vote, and then there will be a deal struck at the last minute. Most airline negotiations take years but this is still a damn good place to work so let's keep on bringing in damn good pilots