https://cdn.fbsbx.com/hphotos-xpa1/v...=56BBF3F6&dl=1

https://cdn.fbsbx.com/hphotos-xpt1/v...=56BCC065&dl=1

Those have since been withdrawn.... Not sure if that means anything or not but the Mesa thread showed some traction that they were in fact getting that flying. Like someone said flying comes and goes.