All points taken. These companies have, and always will be, a stain on the industry. Since the end of WW2 the supplementals changed the industry but not for the better and most are gone now. We now call them "charter" carriers. The pay for 727 Capt AND to load/unload AND be on call 24/6 AND to jumpseat with VERY limited Cass, is not opinion, it's crap!

I'm not trying to pick a fight but if you think that is what you are worth then that's what the company thinks of you. The ads and turnover at these places speak volumes. Just go to the profiles section on this site and look at the profiles of USA jet and Kalitta. Go read the ad on 350 from Aliner and Skyway. It reaks of desperation plus it's mostly lies as the devil is in the details.

I do not agree these "outfits" are stable, safe or career promoting. If they were, the line would be out the door. Again, if you need DEC's, the operation must have some serious issues. And as someone pointed out, if the training failure rate is so high, 1)why? And 2)who would risk the pink slip?

All the companies I mentioned have bad raps and plenty are saying what I am saying. Believe or say what you want. There is a reason they cannot attract or keep people.