Originally Posted by
rickair7777
50-100 hours if you came from another regional flying the exact same airplane maybe...that's how long it takes to get the new procedures down.
Someone new to the airplane needs at LEAST 500, maybe more depending.
Also it's not just getting used to the airplane...you need to see the full weather spectrum, hot and high summer performance issues, blizzards, deicing, and icy runways in the winter.
yeah I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that... blastboy, I dunno where you heard that... but a person's gotta be really arrogant or inexperienced to say they feel comfortable in their first 121 turbine a/c in 50-100 hrs!!! Everyone I've spoken to quotes 400-500 hr-ish. When I jumpseated on others carriers and the more experienced pilots told me, "it will take you about 5 months to get comfortable".. I was thinking like yeah right it won't take me that long. And that's the newbie mentality. If you talk to fresh newbies they might say "yeah I'm comfy" but talk to them again in a few months and they will tell you that they're just now starting to get comfy and can't believe how clueless they had been. UNLESS they are so deluded with self confidence in which case they will never admit that or even realize it.
and as far as 250 hr guys burdening capts, I don't think DE727 was referring to IOE capts but regular capts. Just cuz you got signed off on IOE doesn't mean you now have the skills of a full-fledged experienced FO... most people will still continue to make mistakes albeit lesser ones, and any capt you fly with will still have to watch over you. the 20-50 hrs you get on IOE is just the beginning!