Originally Posted by
kalyx522
yeah I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that... blastboy, I dunno where you heard that... but a person's gotta be really arrogant or inexperienced to say they feel comfortable in their first 121 turbine a/c in 50-100 hrs!!! Everyone I've spoken to quotes 400-500 hr-ish. When I jumpseated on others carriers and the more experienced pilots told me, "it will take you about 5 months to get comfortable".. I was thinking like yeah right it won't take me that long. And that's the newbie mentality. If you talk to fresh newbies they might say "yeah I'm comfy" but talk to them again in a few months and they will tell you that they're just now starting to get comfy and can't believe how clueless they had been. UNLESS they are so deluded with self confidence in which case they will never admit that or even realize it.
and as far as 250 hr guys burdening capts, I don't think DE727 was referring to IOE capts but regular capts. Just cuz you got signed off on IOE doesn't mean you now have the skills of a full-fledged experienced FO... most people will still continue to make mistakes albeit lesser ones, and any capt you fly with will still have to watch over you. the 20-50 hrs you get on IOE is just the beginning!
Yeah, I was refering to experienced guys in the 50 - 100hr range. I confused my own post LOL! My apologies.
I would agree 1000% that it would take 500hrs (maybe more in some cases) to become comfortable and confident in an RJ. But that applies to anyone who has never flown a jet; my point being that a 2000hr CFI would be in the same boat as the 250hr guy (neither having jet experience) and put the same "burdens" on the captain (and I'm refering to general skills in handling a jet). I'm just saying the 250hr guy shouldn't be scrutinzed anymore than an experienced CFI because they both have zero experience in 121 and Jets. There's always the occasional CFI who gets some right seat time in a Citation or what have you but that's rare.
I was assuming he meant IOE capts. IOE is the tip of the ice berg, I couldn't agree more! Just like getting my CFI isn't going to make me superstar instructor the day after I get it.

Comes with hands on, real world schise. I'm not in any hurry to get into the 121 chapter but I am certainly looking forward to it!