Originally Posted by
TrinityDawn
The only possible explanation for this level of delusion is that cr700 is management.
Pays us well? Yea, that's laughable. They get our paychecks wrong so often, the union had to come up with a spreadsheet for pilots to audit their own paychecks. The company has literally been stealing thousands of dollars from the pilot group every pay period. Oh, and find an error? Expect to see the correction in two months. But when the company miraculously discovers an error in a pilot's favor, well by god it's coming out your next paycheck! Funny how that works. Let's not forget the 12/4 year pay scales the company forced down our throats, the change in policy to make a 117 duty extension refusal either a fatigue or sick call (both punitive), and the refusal to pay CA pay to individuals that had someone junior to them upgrade out of seniority order like the contract and 15+ years of precedent said they should have ($5k to 20 pilots affected.) And that's just the tip of the iceberg!
The company does know exactly what they are doing. They are screwing us in every way possible, violating the contract in any way they want, and then blowing smoke up our ass and telling us "good news is right around the corner" to avoid an implosion of epic proportions.
So what if I'm at a desk most of the time? I've got no problem admitting it. I'm still on the seniority list and that's what matters.
Where's the bastion of support that I used to see on here in this thread? In fact, that's why I finally started posting instead of just reading. To turn away these unwarranted incendiary attacks on Envoy. Do you want to flow or not? Well, we do need new hires. That's a fact. We are getting them like everyone else, maybe a few more than others, but we still need them. Why turn them away with baseless accusations about what YOU perceive to be the truth here.
The facts is, there is no other regional that has the type of flow that Envoy has. We are far and away at the top of regionals in terms of percentages of flowing pilots. How is that a bad thing? Add to that the upgrade time that will be dropping rapidly very soon. The 2.5/6 is not just some baloney numbers pulled out of the air. These were calculated over a period of time by Envoy management and it's shown already that it's going to work. These are all based on projections that were created between Envoy and AAG. And that's just with the flow working as we speak. How about that fact?
Upgrades are about to drop rapidly. Forget about your Charlie Bucket. That's union propaganda. I'm not saying overall that the union is bad, it's just that they have their own agenda when running THEIR numbers.
As for work rules. Yes, Envoy has nearly the best in the regional industry. Maybe the reserve rules could use some tweaking, but overall I can't see what the problem is regarding complaining about the work rules in general.
As for the schedules. The schedules are given to us by AAG and we have to make them work. It's really a lack of mid day flying that contributes to many of the lines built in the current fashion. It's just where we are right now. They may not be perfect, but seriously, are they really that bad? It's a fact that every month someone will post that the schedules are the worst they've ever seen. Give me a break. As far as the non commutable ends of the trip, you have company paid hotels! What more do you want? Room service delivered to your room on the company dime?
I would stress again......patience. It's taking some time for the overall company plan to come together but Envoy is a major player and is already a great regional with a robust flow, but as things continue to improve, will be THE premier regional. This, along with the flow is what will bring new hires to our doors.