Originally Posted by cr700

So what if I'm at a desk most of the time? I've got no problem admitting it. I'm still on the seniority list and that's what matters.

Where's the bastion of support that I used to see on here in this thread? In fact, that's why I finally started posting instead of just reading. To turn away these unwarranted incendiary attacks on Envoy. Do you want to flow or not? Well, we do need new hires. That's a fact. We are getting them like everyone else, maybe a few more than others, but we still need them. Why turn them away with baseless accusations about what YOU perceive to be the truth here.

The facts is, there is no other regional that has the type of flow that Envoy has. We are far and away at the top of regionals in terms of percentages of flowing pilots. How is that a bad thing? Add to that the upgrade time that will be dropping rapidly very soon. The 2.5/6 is not just some baloney numbers pulled out of the air. These were calculated over a period of time by Envoy management and it's shown already that it's going to work. These are all based on projections that were created between Envoy and AAG. And that's just with the flow working as we speak. How about that fact?

Upgrades are about to drop rapidly. Forget about your Charlie Bucket. That's union propaganda. I'm not saying overall that the union is bad, it's just that they have their own agenda when running THEIR numbers.

As for work rules. Yes, Envoy has nearly the best in the regional industry. Maybe the reserve rules could use some tweaking, but overall I can't see what the problem is regarding complaining about the work rules in general.

As for the schedules. The schedules are given to us by AAG and we have to make them work. It's really a lack of mid day flying that contributes to many of the lines built in the current fashion. It's just where we are right now. They may not be perfect, but seriously, are they really that bad? It's a fact that every month someone will post that the schedules are the worst they've ever seen. Give me a break. As far as the non commutable ends of the trip, you have company paid hotels! What more do you want? Room service delivered to your room on the company dime?

I would stress again......patience. It's taking some time for the overall company plan to come together but Envoy is a major player and is already a great regional with a robust flow, but as things continue to improve, will be THE premier regional. This, along with the flow is what will bring new hires to our doors.