Originally Posted by cr700

First, it is beyond reason why any of you listen to this guy. He doesn't even work here! He "claims" to be at AA and even if that's true, why does he constantly post here and bash Envoy?

You want numbers? Well, here you go. AA is projecting to hire 750 this year. That will be 375 flows for 2016. For 2017, as of now, they are also projecting 750 hires. So, guess what? Another 375 flows. That's 750 flows between January 1, 2016 and December 31, 2017. We are right around 1900 pilots now. Do some basic math and that leaves you with 1150 pilots. So, we will have to hire 750 pilots between today and year end 2017. Actually maybe a bit less due to us settling in around the 1800 pilot mark.

We already know that the top 300 guys here aren't going anywhere. So, by the end of 2017, seniority number 1050 should be flowing or very close to flowing over. Someone in that seniority range was hired mid 2007. So that says to me with around 950 CA's needed, today's seniority 1950 will be close to upgrade at the end of 2017/beginning of 2018. Guess when #1950 was hired? Early 2014. So, essentially it's right there at the 2.5 year upgrade mark. The company has used this formula intertwined with staffing models and aircraft deliveries/parking, etc. Plus, we should be getting some 145's back from TSA and XJT when they go in for heavy checks.

Sixth grade basic math should bring you to the same conclusion. But I know you like to bash Envoy, so go ahead. You asked for the numbers and there they are. Black and white.