Originally Posted by
cr700
Let me be really honest with all of the Envoy pilots here. Bashing the company is going to do nothing, zero, to help you out of the "situation you feel you are in." Helping your understanding of the company's reasoning and calculations by explaining it in detail is something I've tried to do here but it appears to have gone over your heads. Keep in mind that I've flown the line and understand what it means to be a line pilot so I've tried to explain it in a way that's easily understood.
You can get on board and ride Envoy right into AA or you can bash and be miserable. Better yet, why not make that lateral move to JetBlue, Spirit or Virgin. If you are that big a detractor, we don't need you here. We WILL continue to get new hires. There are many out there who would be happy to embark on their AA career at Envoy.
For those of you interested in coming to Envoy, I'll be happy to answer your questions here. Just ignore the trolls.
"Bashing" Envoy isn't my goal. I'd love to promote it, but the fact is the claims made simply don't hold water. On top of that it's obvious most there feel they are being played for idiots, at least that's the message I get. You're asking people to disregard opinions based on factual information and blindly believe optimistic promises from people who have arguably established an abysmal record of trust and that simply isn't realistic.
Sure, Envoy will continue to get some pilots, but if they are hanging their hats on these promises and projections, I think it clear they will be as disappointed in the future as the current crop are in the present. You have the power to maximize Envoy's future, but a complete philosophical change regarding your pilots as assets instead of manipulatable liabilities is required.
I think you're getting to the fork in the road of either stepping up to the plate or leaving the ballpark for use by more successful teams.