Originally Posted by
GuardBummer
Awesome. FWIW, an April 2015 new hire will be bidding top 50% or better as JFK E190 FO when this system bid is complete. BOS isnt quite that junior, but its moving fast as well.
Man at that rate you will be able to upgrade in about 18 years!
For the record that's 16 upgrades in 6 months total time and that includes projections for busy summer flying. 16 is exactly 1/2 of 1 percent of our seniority list. It is obviously not always like this but it's not "awesome".
Everyone has their own reasons for being here and I respect those reasons but upgrade shouldn't be one of them. I enjoy working here and I live in base(the biggest reason, its a life changer in this business) but if I was a commuter and had multiple offers, or a new hire within the last 1-2 years I would be seriously considering alternatives.
Guys hired 5 years ago vs today will have very different careers at JB. It's even more pronounced the further back you go. It's like an inverse exponential graph due to us being such a young company with such a young pilot group.
15 years ago - phenomenal seniority
10 years ago - pretty damn good outside of the country club bases
5 years ago - quick upgrade but perpetual bottom 80% CA
3 years ago - last of the quick upgrade but looking at years and years of rsv as senior guys upgrade on top of you.
Guys hired 5 years ago needed the list to grow from 2000 pilots to 4000 pilots to make 50%.
Guys hired today need it to grow from 3500 to 7000!!!
Huge difference. Because there is no movement from retirements in the next 10 years. (Only about 100 total)
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