Seriously, do you think UAL paid you 5 hours pay and a box lunch just because they thought it was a good idea.

While I haven't been there yet, consider what you heard and how the FAA may have viewed those incidents. Some of these "stand downs" are there because far greater financial penalties possibly await UAL for not providing proper training from the start.

For those who need a refresher of what can happen:

November 1987 DEN CAL 1713 DC-9-14

Captain's time in jet - 166 hours, F/O 26
Conditions - Snow Storm
Dead - 28

According to the FAA report, NTSB Number AAR-88/09 and NTIS Number PB88-910411:

"The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of this accident was the captain's failure to have the airplane deiced a second time after a delay before takeoff that led to upper wing surface contamination and a loss of control during rapid takeoff rotation by the first officer. Contributing to the accident were the absence of regulatory or management controls governing operations by newly qualified flight crew members and the confusion that existed between the flightcrew members and air traffic controllers that led to the delay in departure."

"The cockpit voice recorder from this crash was discussed in the cockpit of another flight that crashed the following year - Delta Air Lines Flight 1141.[10] The fact that "three minutes of non-pertinent social conversation" had occurred before take-off was mentioned in the official NTSB report.[11]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contin...es_Flight_1713

Much better talking it out in a warm room, 5 hours pay and a box lunch.

Oh I noticed something from this post:
"I got the concept in about 20 minutes, but we beat that dead horse for two full days!"
You didn't forget it, did you!