I always shake my head in disbelief when people say this. By the time that short upgrade happens it's too late for anybody new. Ask the PSA guys hired in the past year how their upgrade is looking...or Mesa. Projections and coming to your own educated conclusions on the health and future of an airline are the only things a sensible person needs to do to decide on which company to choose.

You may not care about "projections" but if you're a new hire looking for where to begin your career, you probably should.

That being said, while we certainly have our share of problems over here, if I were young and didn't mind slugging it out at the regionals for a few years...I would choose envoy. Top knotch training by VERY experienced and knowledgable pilots, a financially healthy company, and a path to the largest airline in the world...seems like a no-brainer to me. I came here nearly a decade ago for the first two reasons and am sure glad I stayed around for the third.