In all seriousness, it is sad how they come out of the wood works--even tag teaming at times--beating a dead horse.

One of them even berated the QOL issue vis a vis pay rates. Eg., the claim was that the QOL folks never can come to consensus about what that means, but then demand a 22% raise. Straw men is what it is.

Can anyone remind me of a time when the TVM folks harp on something other than Section 3? Serious question.