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Old 03-14-2016, 08:20 AM
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Skyvector
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Originally Posted by FlyingPig105 View Post
So as one of the "coveted" ATP rated potential new hires looking to return to the industry...it seems obvious to me that a flow to a major would stifle movement at an airline and make upgrade a lot longer. Pilots will stay longer and wait for the flow rather than seek employment at another major. True or false? Also, if you want to work for the major you would flow into wouldn't you get there quicker if you worked at an airline without flow? Envoy will soon only get 35% then 25% of AA new hires that means 65% to 75% of new hires will not be from Envoy.

Anyone...anyone...Bueller?
The flow creates movement, it doesn't stifle. Right now we have a backlog of pilots due to the lost decade after 9/11. We are the only airline that can guarantee 30 pilots per month leave off the top of the seniority list. And our flow will stay at 50% through pilots hired on October 2011.

Currently United and Delta have about 12,000+ applications on file. Forget American as most new hires come from the flow. Where does your average Regional pilot go in that enormous pile of applications? A few years flying an RJ will give you a leg up over people with military time? Or Airbus time? Or 747 time?

Remember you aren't just competing against other Regional pilots. There are pilots from LCCs, the military, Atlas, Omni, Kalitta, and the list goes on.

So you think that applying off the street at only two majors will work out faster than a no interview flow? Remembering that the flow will be at around 5 to 6 years once the current backlog of pilots go over.

Buy into the Internet cynism if you want...none of these people know what's best for you. They talk the talk but don't walk the walk..it's your choice.
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