Originally Posted by
ag386
Did you really expect anything other than a boneheaded response from this guy? I'm not even sure if someone hired at Envoy today will flow more quickly than someone hired in 01. When they turn down the flow spigot late this year to just a few each month, flow times again increase exponentially.
Look at Envoy. They are desperate for bodies already and are currently in an overstaffed situation. Envoy management doesn't know how to handle it if the bonuses aren't working so they resort to robo calls. Really? I'm gonna jump all over that one if I'm in the market for a regional.
They aren't getting pilots because most people realize the flow is BS and it would just take too long.
Well, I do agree with this, but future pilots who are hired at AA either through the flow or street (especially those young) will have a meteoric rise compared to those who have arrived previously regardless of method. With the most junior AA captains now at 2000 hire dates with Delta at 2014 and considering AA pilot ages and retirements, it's a virtual certainty. I'm cool with that and good for them. Personally, I'm at the point (emotionally and financially) that I'll be ready to move on within 10 years (likely less) and WELL before 65. Of course, the flip side for new pilots will be working for the Walmart of legacies in the compensation and treatment department. It's eye-opening just how far the QWL at AA has fallen in the last 2 years. With the exception of pay rates (still #3 out of 3), it mimics the old Eagle now (definitely not the present Envoy though). Advancement will be faster. Basically, we are now just a larger global US Airways and really not "American Airlines" anymore.
The flow might indeed be a "nice back-up", but most pilots would IMO have just as good a table bet with faster PIC time to be more competitive at the other legacies, LCC's and premium freight operators like FedEx and UPS as an un-cashed theoretical lottery ticket to the aerial Walmart. The few characters here ALL have the same M.O., that is they cannot refute the realities and so the only option is what they believe to be a "rope-a-dope" strategy of deflection in the hope of muddying up the situation and luring in the simple-minded, non-critical thinkers. In ordinary times of the past, this would be an good strategy, but now there really ARE NO pilots to psychologically manipulate. This forum really isn't the panacea of pilot attraction some of them think and so it's amusing just how much effort is spent trying to make it relevant when all it does is provide fodder for rebuttal from pilots like us.
But, times are indeed bizarre and so are some of the players and so, let the good times roll and the entertainment continue................