Yeah and if you believe that only 8 people had messed up bids by this, then I'm sure you bought the story about how changing the voting for new hires only effected 18 people.

I have not posted once on the SAPA forums. Since we don't have a contract, we are at will employees and we have managers that look at the forum daily, I don't want the hassle of putting anything out there. On the old SAPA site, you could see when the last time an employee had logged into the site. Trust me there are a ton of lurkers out there and use the forums for communication. Where else would we get it? From our SAPA meeting notes?

PBS screws up each month and our seniority is violated. Anytime a pairing is replaced and given junior, your seniority is violated. Not everyone can have Christmas, Easter and Thanksgiving off, but someone should be able to bid some days off for a family event and get those weekdays off. And if they don't, they should have the ability to trade trips through some time of schedule improvement tool. When you can't even trade a trip because everyone is maxed out on hours and days, then there is an issue and it is happening to more than just the "80" that post on the SAPA forums.

The vocal minority story is one that SAPA tells themselves so they don't have to worry about listening to the concerns of the pilot group. I feel bad for those that join SAPA thinking that they can help improve anything. Once inside they see how powerless our "representation" is or they get so high on the koolaid that they just think that someone is crazy for wanting to have a small measure of control over their lives.