Originally Posted by
sigep_nm
6 months ago Mesaba had only 49 saabs, and no announcement regarding the 900's. So yes it was actually a different time. Only 36 more planes? That is almost doubling our fleet. And I think you forgot to mention the 15 Crj's that we are taking from you guys. The newest new hire has a seniority number around 550 I believe (havent looked in a while). Within in 2 years there will be 100 aircraft on property, 5 capts, 5 fo's, per aircraft, meaning up grade time with that formula would be right around 2 years. That is not taking in to account attrition. I would say however that a new hire in the 750-800 range (what the currently are) will not see a 2 year upgrade. And unlike 9E a lot of us like it here and are planning on hanging around well past the 1000 PIC. By the way your friend you talked about is basically a street captain, so using him as an example to a new hire is pointless and has no valid comparison.
hold on there buckaroo, never said he was my friend, i just meet him while he was going through training. and yes i know it is doubling your fleet, but that means nothing when you are calling guys back from furlough, and have fo's that have been with the company for 5 years or more. and i am not sure you guys will be getting those 15 crj's. One of our dispatchers rode in our jumpseat about a month ago and said non of the planes are even scheduled to be taken out of service, and that all our flying, as given to us by nwa, till the end of the year is based on the planes we have now with no fleet reduction. i honestly don't think those planes are going to go off property. since nwa mainline bought you guys they have no reason to now, they got the best deal in the world with us flying them. also do you really think nwa will staff the planes 5 to 1??? are you crazy man,, they aren't even close to doing that with their own planes. they are short on crews so staffing 5 to 1 is not going to happen. so like i said there are fo's at mesaba that have been there for 5 years, waiting for a chance to upgrade. Even your generous estimate is 2 years, i personally think it will be much longer. and you are right. mesaba has better work rules, even after the concessionary contract you guys accepted. not arguing that. i guess i have different plans than you. i want in, up, and out. thats all. every week we lose about 10 captains to the majors, our message board is full of goodbyes, and hopefully like them i will only be here 3 years max and be on my way. I think the guy that left mesaba to come here was making a smart move. he wanted to get the pic, and even after being there 5 years he knew it wasn't coming fast. and he knew about the 900's obviously since that was announced a long time ago. he, like me, wasn't ready to make the red tail regionals his home.