* Only post for today.

I would argue that the "perpetual flaming and trolling" is directed AT myself (and others), not COMING from at least myself. In reviewing yesterday's latest dust up here, I simply questioned and disagreed with a new members philosophy that it is acceptable for "fake posters" (TOS violation ?) and "cheerleading" to occur to JUST get people in the door at Envoy with no scrutiny as to the representations to do that. He doesn't even work here.........well, considering his philosophies and the history, he very well might, but I digress........In every post after that, I couldn't find one where I was "bashing" Envoy per se, it was virtually ALL self-defense rebuttal to flamers and trolls targeting me from the usual crowd with a new addition who even freely admitted to engaging me over on EL, solely for the purpose of flaming and trolling ! I guess blatant admissions like that and the subsequent action of doing that are acceptable because its from a sympathetic source ? In fact, in one post I disagreed with another that Envoy was a "sweatshop" and still another a question was asked of me that demonstrated I don't think pilots should leave Envoy laterally just to chase upgrades.

It seems now once again, a member of the core group at Envoy in addition to misrepresenting what I say (non-stop bashing of their former airline and a product of erroneous emotional perception and not reality), is attempting to goad the moderators into censoring non-Envoy pilots off of Envoy threads or even the forum as if only flamers and trolls can be non-Envoy pilots on Envoy threads. If we stop the personal attacks and discuss the issues, I think most of this nonsense would stop. Even respectful disagreement can occur. That's how it SHOULD work. Since selective censorship is being advocated here, then another option would be to remove the conflict and ban any more Envoy threads. I don't think that's the right tack, but if selective censorship is acceptable to some, it's worthy of consideration. I have no problem with the mods putting Envoy thread participants on close watch to ensure no violations of TOS occur like personal attack, name calling, outing, etc. Perhaps it's time ? Providing factual information, reasonable discussion and even respectful disagreement without all the emotion is the goal and I totally support that, while demographics of the member or even number and length of posts shouldn't really have any bearing on the topic or issue, nor be the foundation for attack.